I couldnt imagine a better man for us. He seems to have a minimal social life as well. Thats bad enough in private, in a marriage, imagine what it feels like to see that on social media from your partner. I think they were married 3-4 years. Due to financial reasons, Wyndham Hill Master Association Inc., Shanann and Chris homeowners association filed a suit against them for a fee of $1,533 in July 2018. Obviously Thrive was all BS and she was facing a pregnancy all by herself, flat broke and facing humiliation from her team/peers and raising kids by herself. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. The heartbreaking messages hint at a crumbling marriage and a wife who can't figure out why her husband seems to suddenly want a divorce. I think that was the form her OCD took. You put up with 3 impatient, demanding women in the house, she wrote on, after she sent him a photo of her ultrasound; he replied that he loved the little peanut already. On Nov. 6, Watts pleaded guilty to the nine charges he faced, including five counts of first-degree murder. Hes a fucking psychopath. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. Nothing out of the box. They are doing their best to survive the situation, she said. On August 13, 2018, Watts strangled his wife, Shanann, in their 4,177-square-foot home. Shan'ann posted videos onto social media promoting selling Le-Vel's wellness supplement Thrive. Interesting points made here. He probably fantasized about a different life for a while. Shanann Watts is pictured with her husband, Christopher, and their two daughters, Celeste and Bella. After all, it's not hard to see why people thought that. in the future. She did tho, threaten him all the time, to take the kids away and he would never see them again. Required fields are marked *. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. The streaming platform recently released the documentary American Murder: . Then you file bankruptcy and the moving truck comes and takes all the beautiful stuff you recently purchased along with your new SUV. Parents dont like to get involved in their grown adult childrens relationships or marital problems, I understand this. In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the National Domestic Violence Hotline. Shanann was delusional in living beyond their means but she wasnt EVIL Chris Watts is. To think that you have been replaced is scary, when you know there isnt a way to fix things anymore. Shanann was on board with getting pregnant as this would calm the household down, giving them something to look forward to, and keep him in a marriage that was sucking the life out of him. Once you start, like with everything that unfolded and spiraled out of control, you cant stop or turn back. Easier said than done, of course. A 34-year-old Shanann was also 15 weeks pregnant with a boy they planned on naming Nico. It may or may not tell the tale of whats really going on, she said. And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. The way she told him about Nico was bizarre. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. She states that she felt "very insecure" during her first marriage, and goes on to discuss how bad experiences transformed her into a self-motivated woman who built her own home by age 25. ", Weeks earlier, while she was in North Carolina visiting her family with daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, she wrote to Chris: l realized during this trip whats missing in our relationship! His belief was; if I dont make the decision, I wont ever be wrong. Can you imagine her as a single parent? You have some real writing talent. I would have never thot he would be able to kill his family, the people he loved with all his heart. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. Most mass shootings in the U.S. are also connected to domestic violence. Having someone listen to him was a total shock to him. Like a mercy killing. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. Meanwhile Kessinger thought the marriage was over. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? Well, she shouldnt have . She was previously married to Chris Watts. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. Chris likes other people calling the shots. After the film was released, Shananns family condemned the film and said that the filmmakers were only making money off the case. To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. So I do wonder did Shanann ever really acknowledge why Chris may have been unhappy? The American cable channel Lifetime released a film called Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer on January 26, 2020. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for., Need help? She started seeing signs long before he killed them even confiding in a friend I dont think hes cheating on me as he has no game! Chris, we are so incredibly blessed to have you! she wrote. There is this notion of delay, postpone, string things out. On to your other pointsyes and no to CW being spinelesswhile he was having an affair AND it gave him his first taste of new freedom and excitement that would have quickly worn off once there wasnt a secret to keep/hide. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! She said he had an empty head, forget everything. It is hard to understand why Chris committed the violent acts. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. Though the Watts family had financial struggles, they also had a . It is the fear of being discovered, of having to change your life or give something up. And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. He never ever portrayed anything when it came to those poor little girls. The couple was blessed with two daughters: Bella Marie Watts who was born on December 17, 2013, and Celeste Cathryn Cece Watts who was born on July 17, 2015. I couldnt imagine a better man for us. He started working out and losing weight and passing glances with Kessinger in the hallway, lunch area, etc. Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. To me inside he was a volcano just waiting to erupt. Later, Chris confessed to murdering Shanann and his daughters. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. Think before you speak. Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. Chris and Shanann were from small towns in North Carolina. Learn the difference. They withdraw and distance themselves. In his eyes they had to go all of them and I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom. Then he drove her body to a job site at the oil company where he worked. An officer arrived at about 1:40 pm to conduct a welfare check and had a discussion with Chris regarding the ways to locate his missing family. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. I never thought of Shanann possibly using these happy family videos with Chris before her death as a ploy to hang on to him or keep him from leaving. Shanann hiding her possible impending divorce, goes along with her living in denial as she does when she tells her Thrive clients that shes a better mother and all around human being because she wears a patch, eats the bars and drinks the shakes. Shanann Watts was born on January 10, 1984 in Clifton, New Jersey, USA. He'd stopped touching her, kissing her, would barely speak unless spoken to. I dont think he seems like much of the lovey-dovey father/husband type. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. Interesting none-the-less. When nobody answered the doorbell, Nickole notified Chris who was at work, and also called the Frederick Police Department. Watts told Ann Meadows, the realtor, on the morning the disappearance that him and Shanann hadnt gotten on for over a year. The bankruptcy case was closed in October 2015. The documentary investigates the 2018 crimes of Chris Watts, 35, who brutally killed his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and their two daughters Bella, four and Celeste aged three. OK honey. You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. Married 5 years and 9 months. At TCRS we dont try to take anyones side, were just trying to figure out what happened. My relationship with my ex-husband ended up terrible but we divorced and now we are with great other people! I know we cant judge a parent by a few videos, but I didnt see the passionatly loving parent or strong engagement between he and his kids. But she didnt let up about it. Later that day, Nickole went to her house around 12:10 pm after Shanann had failed to attend her OB-GYN appointment and business meeting; she didnt even respond to any of Nickoles messages. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. She had a brother named Frankie Rzucek. But besides the reference above, from page 2106 of the Discovery Discovery documents, we also know that Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, at least a month before she fell pregnant. There she is chatting merrily with her mother about how they may go to the Mediterranean next year and how the water is nicer other places theyve been. Her first marriage/husband Discussion I'm interested in Shannan's first marriage. But what made it so difficult to interrupt the happy family fairy tale? By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! She was a victim of the Watts Family Murders that occurred on August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado. It probably doesnt matter to those people that Shanann was controlling, and you raise a good point, did she internalize everything and wonder what she was doing wrong? I feel bad for as I know she knew right after the NC trip that he was cheating on her and her marriage was coming to an end. Its no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shanann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasnt at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasnt eating alone. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for.. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. He tried counseling but she wouldn't participate. Thats what probably sealed her fate. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . He and Shanann began to fight. Required fields are marked *. Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. He had policies on his kids and wife. Making the decisions. In an effort to avoid the death sentence, he had pled guilty on Nov. 6, 2018 to killing his pregnant 34-year-old wife Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, not quite three months earlier.And the five life sentences that would be handed down weeks laterplus additional time for the murder of his unborn son . On the day of his arrest, Chris was fired from his job. The reasons that many commit such brutal crimes can be caused by issues such as: a breakdown of the family relationship (this was present in the Watts case) as well as tentative, past and current issues with access and parenting of the children; money issues (they also had a bit of financial hardships), possible mental illness is another reason. Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. At all. He seems more of a background you and me conquer the world type of dreamer that dates women that are into the same kinksI truly think that is what it was (lust and disillusion) and once you get a taste of someone that flips that switch so to speak it is VERY hard to turn that off. They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. At a later hearing, the bail was set at $5 million, and Chris was required to put down 15% to be released. The Colorado woman's husband, Chris - a normally loving affectionate man - had become cold and distant. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about . That was definitely the plan." He remarried and has kids. And so I agree with you Holly that five week taste of freedom sealed the deal, and he couldnt go back to business as usual. How old was he? That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. This narrative isnt very nice, and not very popular. I guess what I cant get my mind around is how he moved from wanting out to strangling those little girls and his wife. Even though the family had issues before their tragic endthey filed for bankruptcy in 2015 friends and neighbors called them the "perfect" family,per The Coloradan. All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. Three weeks before a friend reported Shanann missing on Aug. 13, leading to the discovery that her and the girls had been murdered, Shanann texted her husband on July 24, writing, "l realized. They met in 2010 through mutual friends and married in November 2012. 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